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All the cars have the same physics!!

Well after all the moaning and whining from me after Wednesday I though last night was a cracking nights racing, and it shows people can do things properly if they want Shout for Dazza who took loosing the title well and who I had an excellent race with in heat 3

WD Tom was a cracking drive mate

Thinking about this today I wonder if them being worse than normal last night was down to there being no white tops, causing the gridding and go points to be in different places (I.E the reds were gridding in the normal place but go was called where the blues normally go from). Maybe when this is the case either gridding the yellows where the whites normally are and then buping everyone round would help, or still calling go when the yellow are in three not 4?

Nothing to see move along.

The points are correct, 1pt for 8th and 1pt for 9th equals 2 points. Apologies I thought it was 10 - 1

Point me to the bit where I said anything was OTT. I said people were cutting nothing about OTT. Please don't put words in my mouth!! Oh and changing the system is bad enough, but then no post, no comment in the server nothing make is 100* worse. Oh and the points are wrong I got an 8th and a 9th

Well after what was a frankly well run efficient meeting last week, where the racing was good there was lots of give and take tonight was quite frankly one of the worst meetings I have ever had the displeasure of being part off. 1st, The rollers all night where all over the place. 2nd, People where cutting all night, I pointed this out and nothing was done. In the final for instance I witnessed one car with all 4 wheels up on the tarmac on the infield before he got to the corner to come of and hit another car(early in the race) Then another car spin and not even attempt to rejoin the track and drive across the infield for most of the last half of the lap. I don't care if Andy smith did it or wainman does it. its wrong full stop. 3rd. If you have a gridding system for a series and its used the first week you stick to it. Don't give me any rubbish about its only a fun series(If it is don't have a points series.), or it was a mistake last week(In that case as last week was the first week you have to follow through and do it every week). I will say thanks to Trav though who I had a great race with in I think the consi

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Some really good racing last night, especially with Tosh, and leek in a couple of races. Having said that some of the driving in general was appalling last night, not sure if it was because the meeting was the first UKDirt10 round(Its not a shootout lads and has a closed grid final) but I think most of my points came from other people taking each other out. Shame really as the racing since I came back has been top draw!!

i don't think anyone moaned about your pace, or you spinning. But you will soon get people moaning if you do things like reverse straight in to traffic after a spin as you did a few times last night. You need to wait for a space and get going safely without ruining others races. All in all a top nights racing, seemed to get a bit lucky as all my bad luck came in in one race!

Oh and all the links above appear to be broken

41 Red both please

Go Nezza Go Nezza Go Nezza

Sam Try installing a mod you have never istalled before, should sort it.

I have not planned any of this, but as I bitched on the other thread I should comment here. Warning though so it may turn in to a bit of a brain dump. 1.) Respect: I think for me this has been summed up by Johnos recent appearances in ftooz. For the first two or three meetings he commented each week about how much respect there was between the drivers. Now for the last couple of years I have moaned every time I have done an F1 meeting that some of the standards have been appalling, but maybe I have been barking up the wrong tree in some respects and really what is needed is generally more respect. How this is achieved I don't know but I would like to see it promoted much more. 2.) Community Spirit: Where has it gone, when I first started racing here there were lots of forum posts, banter in chat and talk about real meetings but now its dead around here. Perhaps UKdirt on a the whole needs somebody who is responsible for organising meeting up at meetings(Lets be honest I could stand next to 80% of people who read this and not know who they are), forum events that get people chatting, competitions anything to bring the buzz back. I keep coming back because I get dragged back by my mates whenever I wander away, how many other old drivers could be tempted back if there was a UKdirt presence at meetings, they could chat to about old times. 3.) Joint meetings: Can only be good really, if we were getting 30 + drivers to normal domestic meetings it might not work, but the truth is were not. F1s to be on server 90. Fooz to be on server 91 when a server is not being used for racing it is set for practice. 21 F1s booked in and 25 ftooz (numbers for illustrative purposes only) Start the F2 meeting at 8 run the three tooz heats in the first 30 mins. Start the F1 meeting at 8:30 or when the tooz heats finish whichever is later. Run the F2 final at 9 or when the F1 heats have finished whichever is later. Run the F1 Final at 9:15 or when the F2 final has finished whichever is later. Run the F2 GN at 9:30 or when the F1 final has finished whichever is later. Run the F1 Gn at 9:45 or whenever the F2 GN has finished whichever is later All finished by 10PM, meeting take approximately 2 hours and still finished by 10PM You will get more drivers racing or at least trying other formulas, and again more drivers in chat at once to get talking. 4.) Promotion: Yes the meeting write-ups and posters are a great idea, and might tempt people reading the forum to book in. But lets be honest here most of the people reading the forum know what's going on here, and will choose if they book in or not the people we need to reach are those that don't, both on the internet and at real life meetings. Prime example here is the Brisca 50, when it was first advertised they were advertising for sponsors and it was only £100 a go, for this you got among other things 2 VIP tickets to the final(What a great prize that would have been, to the winner of a WF or W&Y championship) A listing in ALL the BriSCA '50' Series programmes and on the BriscaF2 website, how good an opportunity was that to get the word out, and we have some great artists here who could of knocked up a cracking advert. I doubt we will ever get the chance to advertise at that price again. On top of this there are two very strong Kiwi leagues, have any drivers from these been invited to the world final to try and give it a big meeting feel (Other than those who tried to qualify through the UK system) Add to this all the very strong US leagues out there running short oval stuff, there must be a way to get them involved to give the world final a world feel. A number of people racing here have also raced at non stockcar leagues, surely there is a way to push in to those, invite drivers to race have an open meeting here maybe the regular drivers have 1 set of heats and the new drivers another meeting for a closed grid final. Or have a meeting just for new drivers with a huge push, most of them might only do that meeting but even if 5 or 6 stay around and tell there mates it can only be good. 5.) Other promotions: Now I know moves have already been made in this area by the admin team, But There must be some way to get the promotions to work together. The facts tell the story I don't really need to add anything. Across UKDirt, Sim-Stox and GB Sim Racing 68 individual drivers raced F1s in August alone how awesome would it be to get them all together? 6.) Season length: I agree with Craig here, you really can have too much of a good thing and asking people to race 46+ odd weeks of the year is a bit much, run the NZs on a Thursday out of season give people a break. 7.) Discipline: I know I said above maybe I have been barking up the wrong tree a bit, but I would still like to see swifter and harsher action taken when needed. Do this for a short period and everyone will soon shape up. 8.) Fun meetings: Everyone knows I am a rodder at heart, but recently we had a Sunday meeting in tooz that turned in to a bit of a fun meeting due to the format and I have never laughed so hard at some crashing as I did that night. Takes the tension away and lets everyone exact some retribution outside of a normal meeting or when people are trying to practice(which is just as annoying, if not more so). 9.) More in race stewarding: If you have a driver being an idiot, boot him; If the grade gaps are wrong, call of the start till they get it right; if damaged car sat on the racing line then remove it; F1 has the opportunity to do this in every race and it should be made use of. 10.) Give more awards for things, something like a monthly award for the driver who has raised there average the most in that month with a cumulative end of year award, anything that any driver can shoot for and encourage people to race. I think that’s all for now, if you made it this far well done, and if your not well you won’t read this so sod ya lol

Well except for the GN that was a nightmare I just couldnt miss the spinning cars. I enjoy this place though, and the racing I got to see while parked up looked very good indeed. Well done Johno, going on last night red might not be high enough

Cheers lads A really good nights racing, although the first couple of laps in the final had more carnage than I think I have ever seen before in a race. I got caught up but then got a bit lucky Tom had PC problems causing him to spin, but it was a good race from there on in

Its a sim-stox meeting so they will use there server, but UKdirt have two anyway if the problem should ever occur.

Sorry to put this up because I hate stirring things up but I warned about all in this in admin forum early this season and got called a scare moungourer and that I was talking out my behind. Again sorry to post this but I no longer have a forum to post this in away from prying eyes (By my own choice) Oh and admin should know I still really care about what happens in the future of UKdirt from another post I have in the admin forums in the moment so think before you reply please **EDIT** Head admin at the time put it to the other members who were not willing to listen and for that I am thankful.

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All in all a good nights racing from where I was. I really thought the semis would be carnage but they turned out to be quite tame, and as Johno said there was a lot of give and take all night. I did get taken out by a bad rejoin in the GN which is one of my pet peeves but I would have settled for only 1 incident all night before the meeting. Gary did a good job of getting it done before 10:35 just; And I am not sure you need to apologise Johno Robin got you much harder than you got him!!! Oh and good job semi 2 finishing in the top 4 places of the final ;o)

You can always start at the back mate if you feel like you are getting in the way

Yes, although it is about time you talked someone on to doing you a skin