KINGS LYNN RESULTS

[Dave488]

thanks all for racing tonight and well done to Aub#188 for winning the meeting final and also top scoring, as always thanks to super steward stumpy and everyone else that helped out

 

Results:

Heat 1: 188 443 246 39 112 474 981 488 589 237 52 146 394

Heat 2: 641 79 356 180 238 249 384 8 31 93 848 221 342 380

Heat 3: 79 188 356 589 180 31 39 848 981 641 488 380 394 443

Heat 4: 249 52 238 146 474 112 246 221 8 342 237 384 93

 

Consi: 237 380 221 848 394 93 342

 

Final: 188 8 112 52 356 237 39 180 79 384 238 848 246 221 249 380 589 474 641 981 146 488 443 31

 

GN 1: 238 39 79 394 146 384 981 488 848 380 443 188 93 342

GN 2: 249 589 52 246 8 180 237 356 31 641 474 221 112

 

Points:

39 pts 188 Aub

31 pts 79 WeeRyan

31 pts 356 Mitch

31 pts 52 Hhunter

29 pts 8 Llyody

28 pts 39 LeeK

27 pts 112 TomD

25 pts 249 Jack

24 pts 180 Wardiee

24 pts 238 KaneM

19 pts 246 Stox

18 pts 589 Stijneman

15 pts 237 RickyLJames

13 pts 146 Crashley

12 pts 641 Mav

11 pts 474 DannyKing

11 pts 384 TheBagoo

10 pts 981 MartinB

9 pts 443 Ritzo

9 pts 31 Simon

7 pts 394 PaulE

6 pts 488 Dave

5 pts 848 BullyJnr

3 pts 221 Spike

1 pts 93 Twisty

1 pts 342 Heatrick

1 pts 380 Liam

 

NO SHOW

 

0 pts 134 Bondy

 

see you all next week where we will be at Bristol for another WCQR

 

 

The replays are here!

 

 

Edited May 13, 2014 by DanSkin

[Wardieee]

WD to all the winners ect however I am now going to have a massive moan!

 

The rolling laps in both of tonight's meeting were dreadful to say the least, and with a (1 restart) policy the second attempt will see you jump starters docked so please be expecting PM's! Its not only me who witnessed this, when talking to super steward Stumpy he seemed to have as many as I did. A jump start causes an awful lot of hassle, not only does it mean the steward has to ESC from the game and login as an admin, but the steward also then needs to report the jump start, review it and then possibly dock it which then means all of these points will change and huge amounts of work will need to take place to fix these errors. TO MAKE IT CLEAR, when you roll at 20 you don't nail the throttle, you gradually accelerate to 20MPH and stay at this speed. Whilst rolling at 20 you need to ensure you are keeping up with the grade in front as any braking/tyre warming will see your grade drop back.

 

Other than those issues, I had a very enjoyable evening of stockcar racing! Keep your eyes on the youtube page for some more onboard action!

 

19/05/14

 

Edited May 12, 2014 by Wardieee

[ryan79]

good meeting last night at both tracks for a change is there any replays

 

thanks again admin's

[Wardieee]

good meeting last night at both tracks for a change is there any replays

 

thanks again admin's

 

Replays will be added over the next few days

[Mav]

WD to all the winners ect however I am now going to have a massive moan!

 

The rolling laps in both of tonight's meeting were dreadful to say the least, and with a (1 restart) policy the second attempt will see you jump starters docked so please be expecting PM's! Its not only me who witnessed this, when talking to super steward Stumpy he seemed to have as many as I did. A jump start causes an awful lot of hassle, not only does it mean the steward has to ESC from the game and login as an admin, but the steward also then needs to report the jump start, review it and then possibly dock it which then means all of these points will change and huge amounts of work will need to take place to fix these errors. TO MAKE IT CLEAR, when you roll at 20 you don't nail the throttle, you gradually accelerate to 20MPH and stay at this speed. Whilst rolling at 20 you need to ensure you are keeping up with the grade in front as any braking/tyre warming will see your grade drop back.

 

Other than those issues, I had a very enjoyable evening of stockcar racing! Keep your eyes on the youtube page for some more onboard action!

 

I don't agree Wardieee, It is not all the drivers fault.

 

I think you were very wrong to stop the Grand National when you had already called "Go".

You abandoned the first rolling lap complaining that we yellows were too far back behind the white, which Ricky and I were not, and we rolled at 20mph.

THEN after abandoning the first GN, up on the next attempt to run it, you allowed the blues to be right behind Ricky and I when you called "Go" - This was grossly unfair on both us yellows, why wasn't this stopped??

The pictures below will verify where we lined up - note that you did not move the blues back to where they should start - and where they were when the "Go" was called.

LINING UP FOR GN - PART TWO

WHERE GO WAS CALLED

 

This also leads me to the false accusation by the steward in heat 1 that the yellows were too far behind the whites and not keeping up, and therefore that race was not started.

Again Heatrick & I rolled at 20 as did the whites. So why were we singled out as being wrong.

You can clearly see that the distance between the W&Y remain constant right up till the rolling lap was abandoned, so we couldn't have been hanging back.

I have no intention of jumping the start, no intention of cheating by going 25+, I am happy to start at the back of the grade, all I wish to do is to have a fair race.

W&Y LINING UP

W&Y WHEN ROLLER HAD DONE A LAP AND ABANDONED

So that proves we were keeping the same gap given to us when we lined up.

 

But look at the remaining grades.

LINING UP HEAT 1

PART WAY THROUGH ROLLING LAP

WHEN ROLLER HAD ONE A LAP AND ABANDONED

 

I feel that I had a great opportunity to do well taken from me because of the calls by the stewards, and because of drivers just not caring enough about the integrity of the meeting.

I hope that everyone can play a part in getting this right from here on in, and this highlights the need for drivers AND stewards to work together better.

Edited May 13, 2014 by Mav

[Wardieee]

Not being funny Mav but you have made an arse of that tbh. If you had bothered to read my post you would of seen 1 or 2 key phrases that will cancel these factors out. I will take the legacy of highlighting these for you below.....

 

The rolling laps in both of tonight's meeting were dreadful to say the least, and with a (1 restart) policy the second attempt will see you jump starters docked so please be expecting PM's!

 

as for Stewarding comments, there were 3 officials in the race and TWO of them (none of them being myself) called for a restart so I looked down, noticed the white was miles ahead as shown in my pretty picture below. If you would like the replay I would be more than happy to provide it......

 

 

Where are the whites.... They have clearly jumped it as both me and TomD said in chat. By that point we hadn't had a restart so with a 1 restart policy surely we are allowed to restart it just as we would in any other race or formula?

Edited May 14, 2014 by Wardieee

[Mav]

I do accept what you are saying Wardieee, and I do not want to start a debate or argue as I don't think there is one to be had.

What there is, is us coming from two different angles here.

 

Allow me to explain.

 

I believe once a race has been called "Go" it is underway and should not be stopped - Any transgressions should be dealt with after the race - this happens in real life.

ie 474 should be docked or excluded after the race was concluded.

 

The restarting policy is acceptable if the "Go" has not been called.

 

The restart in that GN we were told in race server, was that the "Yellows did not keep up" not that the "White had jumped the start", hence why I questioned on here why were the yellows at fault - Now I know they weren't.

 

The 2nd re-run was worse than the first as we all bunched up, and to my mind that should have been restarted too. Drivers would get the message eventually!

But if we only have one restart policy, then won't drivers try and take advantage every time after the first one? This would create more work for admin in the long run.

Maybe if its one driver causing problems they are removed to the back of the grid or excluded for the re-run?

 

So now that you have clarified the GN situation, that the yellows were not at fault although were told so at the time, we are in agreement that things need to improved by both Drivers and Stewards.

 

Still unsure why heat 1 was stopped first time around tho?

Was it just a mis-judgement?

 

 

[Wardieee]

So now that you have clarified the GN situation, that the yellows were not at fault although were told so at the time

 

At no point did anyone say the yellows were at fault..... 3 admin members all agreed that the white top was a bit quick off the start

 

<Chat et="10.3">Wardieee-180: can we keep the gaps please</Chat>

<Chat et="23.8">Danny King-474: who me</Chat>

<Chat et="31.6">Simon31: yeep</Chat>

<Chat et="36.2">Wardieee-180: yes we all roll at 20 and all keep the gaps!!!!!</Chat>

<Chat et="47.4">Tom Drabble-112: The gap between the Whites and Yellows was massive just before Go was called</Chat>

<Score et="49.7">Wardieee-180(29) lap=0 point=1 t=8.617 et=49.605</Score>

<Score et="49.8">spike221(30) lap=0 point=1 t=8.761 et=49.750</Score>

<Score et="51.4">Simon31(31) lap=0 point=1 t=10.336 et=51.325</Score>

<Score et="53.2">lloyd_8(33) lap=0 point=1 t=12.234 et=53.223</Score>

<Chat et="54.2">Danny King-474: I was doing 20 andk kept looking behind though</Chat>

<Score et="55.5">mitch356(36) lap=0 point=1 t=14.538 et=55.526</Score>

<Score et="58.0">Tom Drabble-112(35) lap=0 point=1 t=16.958 et=57.946</Score>

<Score et="58.4">HHUNTER52(41) lap=0 point=1 t=17.393 et=58.381</Score>

<Score et="58.6">StijnemanH589(37) lap=0 point=1 t=17.631 et=58.619</Score>

<Score et="59.2">Wardieee-180(29) lap=0 point=2 t=18.197 et=59.185</Score>

<Score et="59.9">Jack-249(43) lap=0 point=1 t=18.846 et=59.834</Score>

<Score et="62.1">Simon31(31) lap=0 point=2 t=21.075 et=62.063</Score>

<Score et="62.3">Ricky James237(40) lap=0 point=1 t=21.305 et=62.293</Score>

<Score et="62.9">Stox246(42) lap=0 point=1 t=21.848 et=62.836</Score>

<Score et="64.5">mitch356(36) lap=0 point=2 t=23.449 et=64.437</Score>

<Score et="66.2">Wardieee-180(29) lap=1 point=0 t=25.173 et=66.161</Score>

<Chat et="68.9">Mav_641: bloody hell yellows again - i was doing 25 just to keep up!</Chat>

<Score et="69.1">StijnemanH589(37) lap=0 point=2 t=28.064 et=69.052</Score>

<Score et="74.0">Mav_641(34) lap=0 point=1 t=32.952 et=73.940</Score>

<Score et="76.2">Ricky James237(40) lap=0 point=2 t=35.200 et=76.188</Score>

<Score et="78.0">Jack-249(43) lap=0 point=2 t=37.020 et=78.008</Score>

<Score et="84.3">Mav_641(34) lap=0 point=2 t=43.336 et=84.325</Score>

<Chat et="85.8">Ricky James237: same mav</Chat>

<Chat et="91.8">Wardieee-180: lol white top was a bit quick off the line looool</Chat>

<Chat et="100.5">Tom Drabble-112: Danny?</Chat>

 

As for heat 1 I cant remember, I just specifically remember the GN being a pain with it being the last race. A restart will see a 50/50 chance. It could get better it could get worse. As for my opinion I would never restart races ether, I am more than happy to chance a jump in every single race and run the risk of a possible docking as that's what being a superstar is all about to be honest. This restart thing is something that has always been run through my spell of admin over the past few years and I suppose with the odds being 50/50 I can see why the higher admins have chosen to run the meetings in this way.

Edited May 13, 2014 by Wardieee

[Toff244]

just as a point of reference one the finals at the last real life stoke meeting (not sure if it was 1's or 2's, i forget, ive drank since then) was restarted after the green flag for an unsatisfactory start. so it does happen.