Mr Beef Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Tried all different settings. Got latest drivers. Doing my head in now. Works on desktop but not lappy and working away from tomorrow morning for two weeks so will miss both Euro's unless Mor or some other knowledgeable person finds a fix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splinter Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Tried all different settings. Got latest drivers. Doing my head in now. Works on desktop but not lappy and working away from tomorrow morning for two weeks so will miss both Euro's unless Mor or some other knowledgeable person finds a fix Well tried Beef, I'm sure the answers out there. At least if everyone trying posts what they have done it will help others a little. Hopefully both Euro's this Sunday and on Wednesday will be acheivable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johno3 Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Superb track MoR. Love it already and only done 20/30 laps. Mine works fine, and I am afraid I dont know where to find all the data from. All I know is I run it on dx7, xp, and the full version of rfactor. Cheers Johno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The London Allstar Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Ok, i updated my ATI drivers up to the latest patch released in july 08 and ran the game on the settings i usually use with no joy. Ive changed the DX level's (7,8,9) Changed the screen resolutions (16 + 32bit) wit hthe different types of DX Changed all my graphics settings to run the lowest possible with all the different DX levels Tried running rfactor with VSync turned on and off (off is what i usually use) Tried running the game in a window with all the different DX levels. Tried using the "Auto" dx level. Tried all 3 'Anti Aliasing' levels and "none" which was defualt didnt work either I cant think of anything else i can try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splinter Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Superb track MoR. Love it already and only done 20/30 laps. Mine works fine, and I am afraid I dont know where to find all the data from. All I know is I run it on dx7, xp, and the full version of rfactor. Cheers Johno I've done 200+laps on both Rods and F1 version and love it. The detail around the circuit is fantastic including the benches outside the bar, the hot dog stands etc and even bev greenhalf and paul gerrard in the commentary box with their baseball caps on to shade from the oncoming sunshine. Epic!!! track!!!, maybe a few vans, coaches, trailers, and the burger van in the pits is all thats missing! Oh and the entrance from the field near the pits toilets, but that can come easily with the full version lol I didnt think anyone would get to the level of freeW, but I think you have surpassed it! I hope you have the time and motivation to make at least one more track m8. PS I think Baarlow wud make a great addition now we have most modern day tracks (ie Buxton and Cowdenbeath are in hand for 2009!!) Hopefully Wrighty can try one more track as well following his sucess of Skeggie...after he's finished his other comittments tho hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splinter Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Ok, i updated my ATI drivers up to the latest patch released in july 08 and ran the game on the settings i usually use with no joy. Ive changed the DX level's (7,8,9) Changed the screen resolutions (16 + 32bit) wit hthe different types of DX Changed all my graphics settings to run the lowest possible with all the different DX levels Tried running rfactor with VSync turned on and off (off is what i usually use) Tried running the game in a window with all the different DX levels. Tried using the "Auto" dx level. Tried all 3 'Anti Aliasing' levels and "none" which was defualt didnt work either I cant think of anything else i can try Sometimes older drivers can work better. Seems like you've tried most of the things you can though and that I wudda done. Maybe there is a program similar to 3DAnalyse that can bypass the shader problem?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutch#331 Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Like demon says the prob is ati cards which don't have shader 3.0, that were one of the reasons why ati cards didn't sell and why on the back of games a few years back had a warning about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulp23 Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 (edited) Hello guys , you could try this program i use it to overclock my graphic card but it has an option to force shader 2 , i have tryed using it forcing shader 2 with the new track and it worked fine but then again i do have a nvidia card , maybe somebody could try it and post weither it works or not. Anyway the Program is called Rivatuner here is the link. http://downloads.guru3d.com/RivaTuner-v2.0...wnload-163.html# i just read that some ati cards have limited options with rivatuner so it may or not work but it's all i can think of right now , just need somebody with an ati card to try it. Edited August 3, 2008 by Paulp23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulp23 Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Btw . the shader force options are in the directX tab at the bottom of the main rivatuner interface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulp23 Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 (edited) One more thing , USE THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK . it has lots of options for your card so dont go changing things if your not sure what it does. Edited August 3, 2008 by Paulp23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulp23 Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Ok , 3 screenshots explaining how to change the shader , sorry for the crap quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertL Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Riva Tuner is a little different here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Beef Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Thanks for trying to help Paul but it doesn't work with my card. No option to get to the 3D menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulp23 Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 (edited) Oh well sorry fellas i thought i would post it , although i was not sure it would work with ati , i'll have another look and see if there is anything else. silly question but you guys do have directX 9 installed right? Edited August 3, 2008 by Paulp23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulp23 Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 (edited) http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Video-T...ray-Tools.shtml in the read me , Tweak for overriding Pixel and Vertex Shaders give it a try? as i do not have an ati card i cannot help you with what settings to change but it should be quite stright forward. Edited August 3, 2008 by Paulp23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 there is also a similar program to RivaTuner but for ATI cards rather than that one being for mainly Nvidia ones. will find the link in a minute for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulp23 Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Video-T...ray-Tools.shtml in the read me , Tweak for overriding Pixel and Vertex Shaders give it a try? as i do not have an ati card i cannot help you with what settings to change but it should be quite stright forward. yes this one is for ATI cards , somebody tryed it yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 same here lads will not load Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Beef Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Tried that Paul just crashes on start up gives me blue screen have to reboot in safe mode to uninstall tried it twice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertL Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 don't works here, i give up and sell my stuff on eBay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Beef Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Lol Dont despair Mor will sort it and it is only 1 track at the minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertL Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 i hope so Mr Beef what does this track have what other tracks not have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Beef Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Its been made using shader 3 I think and some ATI cards like mine in laptop only support shader 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoR137 Posted August 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Hi guys, Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I've only had chance to skim through the thread (on lunch break atm) but like looks like the ATI theory is looking good. How to fix it on the other hand is another question. Allstar - you won't be able to find the file in question in the track folder because it is well packed into another one, so that would explain why you can't find it, but thanks for looking/reporting back anyway. If I don't get 5 minutes to look at it tonight (likely) then i'll definately have a look late tomorrow evening and will get a PM out to you guys with problems with a download link to V0.6 for you to test for me if that is ok? NIRPLVAR03 is texture varient for the silver plating/fence that I'll be piling Johno into on Thursday night, and it was made by one of my computer geek friends who is a genius with making textures and normal maps (must remember to credit him in the next installer..... ahem). The problem here is that he might have created them on something which lacks support for ATI cards. I have three ideas on how this can be fixed. If none of them work then I will simply replace the texture on the plating to a super simple, solid, flat silver one for the time being, (hopefully) ensuring that everybody who wishes to race on Wednesday and Thursday can do (that is of course, presuming this texture is the only problematic one). So please please please don't let this affect your decision to book in and race for Wed/Thurs. I'll try my best! MoR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 best bet to call the meeting off then or change track? or maybe just set it back untill the problem is sorted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumbstick Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Extract the files in the atached zip file to your NIR directory, as default this will be C:\Program Files\rFactor\GameData\Locations\NIR. This is not an official fix and I do not have permission from Mor to post it so if he would like it removed I will do so. NIRquickfix.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splinter Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Extract the files in the atached zip file to your NIR directory, as default this will be C:\Program Files\rFactor\GameData\Locations\NIR. This is not an official fix and I do not have permission from Mor to post it so if he would like it removed I will do so. Dam beat me to it, was just about to do that when I got home lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H33Racing Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Tried it .. but stil no luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumbstick Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Hmm perhaps older cards support less shaders. Copy one of the files you extracted to the directory. And rename it nrplate03B and try again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 THE quick fix worked for me thx dumbstick superb track mor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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