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  1. :coffee: 61 in November , Bobberts right, so there, you`re all spring chickens.......lol.

     

    Think nearest to me in Bangers is Crewe but no idea how old he is.

     

    As BigAndy started with his ramble , its my turn ;)

     

    My first view of Stock Cars was Harringay stadium, North London.

     

    I was about 10 then so it was 1961 and the bug bit .

     

    After a couple of return visits we turned our attentions to Wimbledon Stadium where the new F2`s were being run by a new promotion called Spedeworth.

     

    Found far more action there with the F2`s and were regular spectators there and at New Cross Stadium until moving out of London in 1965.

     

    Spedeworth really used to put everything into there promoting back then, even the start marshal wore a Golden Bowler hat ( Jumbo Allen).

     

    They got there first International tag by inviting a team from Holland over for a series of Team racing.

     

    What better way to promote this than driving all of the Dutch team, 6 cars and trailers with their race cars , bedecked with Tulips through the London streets covered in posters.

     

    3x Ford Farlines and 3x F1 style cars with Beetle bodywork if I remember correctly.

     

    Needless to say me Dad and me went to New Cross to watch the Team event and were jumping up and down making loads of noise as our little F2`s beat the Dutch V8 powered cars.

     

    But enough of me tales of old, I think you`ve got the picture.

     

    Final note, I did get to see the old Brisca F1 stock car legend "Darkie Wright" racing a SCOTA F1 car round Ringwood Raceway in the 1970`s and at the time he was a mere 65 so

     

    theres hope for us all. :thumbup:

  2. :rolleyes: Just finished putting on the last of my cine film to YouTube conversions.

     

    This one is just a short bit taken at Wimbledon in 1972 during one of their Carnival Nights.

     

    Afraid it came out a bit dark but its better than nothing I spoz and there`s nothing else on YouTube on the subject.

     

    Besides its another bit of archive from 40 years ago.

     

  3. :042: Thought I`d better mention I`ve just spent , far too long, trying to get some old cine film I`d taken way back, put onto youtube.

     

    After lots of mucking about converting it and editing it`s done , all 2 minutes and 23 seconds of it.

     

    Superstox of yesteryear but as it`s 40 years old its kind of archive material by now so if you want to take a look its here -

     

    :2: Biffo

  4. After some rummaging around I came up with some bits and pieces not included in the Book review that may be of some interest ( or not ).

     

    Click here for some youtube footage

     

    Plus I found someone on another forum who claimed that a driver called Bernard, Charles, Ecclestone booked in at a couple of the London meetings in 1955.

     

    Now known as plain old Bernie Ecclestone , seems his stock car career was a short one due to his immaculate cars getting wrecked. :5:

  5. Biffo`s Book Review - The Thrill of the Century by Pete Tucker

     

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    Found this one, second hand, on Ebay last December, cost me about £14 inc. P&P but does have authors signiture inside.

     

    Pete Tucker raced stock cars from the very first meeting in the UK, Good Friday 1954 at New Cross Stadium.

    He continued his racing career through to 1964, finishing up racing in, the then new, formula two stock cars as national points champion.

    We can all look up records and dates to see who won what in this era but thanks to Pete Tuckers detailed memory this book actually takes you back there.

    He wrote the book around 1993 , as he puts it ," while I can still remember ".

     

    Pete`s first job was at Ford`s Dagenham Plant getting Ford American Army trucks ready for D-Day.

    He took over the familys second hand car sales and scrap yard business in Wembley, when his father died.

    A couple of years later he met with the ex boxer, ex Speedway rider and Circus Promoter, Digger Pugh.

    Digger was a kind of Austrailian Danny De Vito, standing five feet nothing, and usually wearing a bright Hawiian shirt.

    What he lacked height he made up for with his huge enthusiasm and ideas.

     

    After seeing some stock car films of the US racing and seeing an actual Stock Car ready to race, that Digger had got built and painted, he went back to the Wembley yard and took the For Sale sign off a 1930`s Ford V8 on the forecourt and set about building a stock car.

    The car was towed across London to New Cross Stadium for the practice day and he was stopped from going onto the track when it was noted he wasn`t wearing a crash helmet.

    " I`m not planning to crash so I dont need one" came his reply, needless to say he had to get his mechanic to go down to road and buy one.

     

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    Well the big day came and the stadium was full 4 hours before start time (7.45 pm).

    The crowds loved it and the drivers loved it and of course the promoter loved it.

    Spins, roll overs, wrecks galore and if you could survive a race, some decent prize money up for grabs.

    After 3 New Cross meetings, filling the stadium with 30,000 people each time, the promoter switched to Harringay Stadium which could hold 40.000

    He was able to fill this too on race nights, throughout the rest of the year.

     

    Digger Pugh was now opening tracks as far south as Plymouth and as far North as Newcastle and wanted a team of drivers to sign up full time.

    This would give them up to 5 meetings a week and adding together start money, prize money and travelling expenses could net you £400 per week.

    Pete Tucker signed up, after all £400 in those days is closer to £4000 today.

    Amongst the travelling Barnstormers as they were called, a Woman driver , Mrs Tanya Crouch.

    Petes initial response to meeting her at the first practice day at New Cross was that if they couldn`t drive properly on the road what did women think they could do on the track ?

    However Tanya had other ideas and Pete soon changed his mind when he saw her throwing the car sideways round the bends at speed, and was to go on to beat the men on several occassions.

     

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    Pete Tucker travelled to as many meetings as possible covering thousands of miles, of course the UK roads at that time resembled the B roads of today with no Motorways and very few by-passes .

    Long distance trips were taken during the night when there was little traffic and very few cops around.

    There were no all night petrol stations either so for a long trip extra fuel cans were carried and some small bore rubber tubing so if you got real low you had to go "Milking" to get some more, and of course cows were not involved in the process.

    The only beacons of light on the road in the early hours were the series of all night transport cafes doted around the country.

    Here you could park up amongst the lorries, vans and other stockers and get a big breakfast for a shilling ( 5p ) while the juke box played the latest Rock and Roll.

    At some establishments you could even dance to the music with the girls that were attracted to the place, most were hookers on the game but pleasent enough to dance with.

     

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    Repairs could be a problem on the move but loads of spares were carried, even engine changes were possible if you found a lay by and a large tree with an over hanging branch.

    Gas bottles also came along for repairs and heating up bent axles.

    Sometimes the unexpected happens, like one night, on a trip down the A30 they got so many punctures that they had to abandon the tow vehicle and throw as much as possible into the Stock Car . Then, after attaching a torch to the front bumper to light up the cats eyes, both Pete and his mechanic, known as Sprogg, drove the race car through the night from near Salisbury, Wiltshire until daybreak when they reached an all night Cafe near Exeter. After a phone call to the Stadium at Plymouth a car and trailer was sent out to get them.

     

    Of course it wasnt all fame and fortune, Pete drove down the A3 once to visit Portsmouth Stadium which he described as a right dump with not many spectators.

    They put on the usual good racing although he managed to brake the gearbox before the final.

    After the meeting the promoters presented the Final winner with a shiney trophy for his lap of honour but later took it back, he couldnt keep it, it was just for show.

    Then the promoters pleaded poverty and for his travelling expenses, start and prize money he received the grand sum of £1 and 10 shillings.

    He didnt bother going back there again.

    The season finished in October by which time tracks had opened all over the place with plenty of different Promoters, some good and some not so.

     

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    PORTSMOUTH STADIUM 2011 NOW DISUSED , VIEW FROM THE M275

     

    Closed season was a bit of an anti-climax but there was an AGM to attend which consisted of a lot of talk and ideas but not much changed , then finished up with a good Pub crawl.

    Then there was the Dinner Dance that was allways well attended where you would dress up, have a good meal then dance the night away or just prop up the bar and chat " racing ".

    Then, when everyone was nicely boozed up, the Ballroom floor was made into an oval track and drivers would be able to take part in races on tri-cycles.

    The whole thing sounded hilarious with people falling off and crashing . Then you just drove home, remember no breathalysers back then.

     

    Same again in 1955 except there was a short lived alliance between Nascar in the US and the UK being called Bascar.

    This allowed a team of drivers from the USA to come over here and race against the UK.

    The USA team had to drive all the way up from the Carolinas in the South to New York, where their cars were put aboard the Queen Mary and then transported across the Atlantic to Southampton.

    They were promised travelling expenses, appearence money and prize money .

    The American cars from Nascar looked very much the same as the UK Stock Cars but thats where the similarities finished because they were six seasons ahead of us and under the bodywork were basically racing parts, from engines to suspension.

    Needless to say in the team racing they walked all over us, sometimes laps ahead and in the normal racing they were getting most of the prize money.

    During the season the team racing faded out , partly due to the Good `ol boys getting homesick and partly due to some greedy promoters not paying out the money that was promised.

     

    As the 1955 season faded out so did the name Bascar, although it was reserected some years later as the promoters association, BRISCA

     

    Same again in 1956 except Digger Pugh moved on and dissappeared from the scene and then Petrol Rationing arrived after the Suez Crisis.

    Pete and another driver couldn`t get around the country on rations so they had to come up with a brainwave between them.

    There saviour was Paraffin not rationed and cheap too and of course illegal if used on the roads but only if you got caught.

    By putting the fuel line across the exhaust and tweaking back the ignition timing it worked, except for the smell of Paraffin !

    Then they found if you put a handful of moth balls into the tank when filling it - no more smell.

    This little wheeze took them around the country the whole season.

     

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    FORD WRECKED AFTER FOLLOW IN BY 2 TONS OF PACKARD

     

    Another problem in the early days were cars that were too heavy so a weight limit was brought in but nothing got weighed at the track so some cars were still overweight.

    A 1930`s Ford V8 coupe when prepared for the track would weigh roughly 1 ton but a big Packard well ironed up could weigh twice that.

    In one incident a driver came down from Bristol to one of the London tracks and was told his car was overweight and he couldnt race.

    He wasnt having any of it and started to cause trouble in the pits.

    So the Londoners, not wishing to cause any more unpleasentness, walked away, then returned and set fire to his stock car, and no he didnt race that night !

     

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    To cut a long story short thoughout the remainer 1950`s things went downhill.

    The bubble had burst, crowds were dwindlling, tracks were closing and there was a shortage of cars and they were now allowing Specials to race.

    These were less stock production cars , more homemade hybrids on ladder frame chassis and a cut down body stuck on top , the forerunners of todays F1 stock cars.

    Specials cost far more money to race and build while the prize money was going down and Specials were loathed by the original pure Stock Car drivers and fans.

     

    On the up side during this period the British Stock Car Drivers Association ( B.S.C.D.A.) was formed to regulate the cars and protect the drivers from some of the poorer promoters.

    The BSCDA made one of the best moves to improve the racing in 1957, the grading system , white roofs, yellow roofs, blue roofs and then the star red roofs at the back.

    This became the way forward with the best drivers at the back and having to get through the pack , just as we know it today.

    Seems strange now that it took until the 4th season to implement such a simple rule, this was because some people thought, wrongly, that it just wouldnt work and the best drivers wouldnt get through to the front without being wrecked.

     

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    Something had to happen if the sport wasnt going to continue to downsize , then in 1961 came a new breed of Stock Car, Formula 2 ( labelled Junior Stock Cars).

    The idea was that due to the shortage of cars and the expense to start racing one of the F1 cars ( labelled Senior Stock Cars ) a stepping stone , smaller 10 horse power, cheaper version of car would bring the newer drivers into the sport who would then step up to the bigger F1 cars.

    Did this work, well yes and no.

    The F2 cars were a throw back to the idea of cheap stock car racing and boomed within a couple of seasons.

    This brought the crowds back in to watch the little cars bouncing around and causing chaos again.

    Only problem was they were so popular that even the F1 drivers wanted to race them and many abandoned the ranks of F1, as did Pete Tucker and his brother Tommy Tucker.

     

    This brought about a big rift amongst the promoters because some decided to forget F1 cars and just run meetings for the F2 cars which brought in the crowds.

    One such promoter was Les Eaton ( Paramount Promotions ) and its thought that to teach this newcomer a lesson they refused him a licence to race at Arlington Raceway at the 11th hour and then withdrew his Aldershot licence as well , and of course that back fired on them, in the long run, when he started up in competition as Spedeworth promotions.

    This split the drivers as well , some stayed loyal to the BSCDA, like Pete Tucker while others had had enough of the politics and joined up to Spedeworth, like his brother Tommy Tucker.

     

    Theres one more piece to finish this jig-saw , a young Stock Car driver called Gerry Dommett from Fordingbridge, who turned to Promoting back in 1957 at Matchams Park Raceway, Ringwood. Matchams had been running Stock Cars from the first season in 1954 but was one of the first to close untill 1957 when Gerry swept away the speedway track and had one of the first all tarmac tracks.

    Some drivers said it would be impossible to race on anything other than shale `cos their locked diffs couldnt go round the bends and besides the tyres would grip too much and fall off of the rims. But of course everything was fine and it became a very popular venue.

    Gerry dommett also promoted tracks at Southampton and Swindon but best known today for his Mendips Raceway , near Bristol.

     

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    The most popular F2 car to be raced in the early 1960`s was the old 1930`s Ford Y Popular with its 1172cc engine and, believe it or not, they had a thermo-syphon cooling system.

    Basically heat went round the engine and was cooled through the rad as normal but without the need of a water pump !

    If, as often happened at the old Southampton track, they over did the watering of the shale track , the cars radiator would get sprayed with shale and cake up causing over heating.

    So you risked seizing the engine or just gave up and parked in the centre.

     

    Pete Tucker arrived at the Southampton track in 1964 after it had been raining and there was the water truck going through the puddles watering the track.

    He`d had enough explaining about the problems of over watering before and after a quick meeting with the other drivers, went straight to the promoter and told him they werent going to drive on that soup that was now the track, but Gerry Dommett insisted they would.

    The spectators arrived and still no racing while tempers fraid until Pete Tucker drove his stock car onto the track, knocking over every marker barrel around the inside and came back again to many boos from the crowd.

    As he got out of the car Gerry Dommett came up to him looking angry and within seconds the two of them were having a right old punch up in front of the crowd.

    They got dragged apart and then the meeting started as normal except for Pete Tucker who loaded up, went home and never raced again.

     

    Pete Tucker then followed his interest in buying , selling and exhibiting American cars but kept in touch with many drivers until joining the Vetern Stock Car Drivers Club.

    It was at an AGM for the V.S.C.D.C. that the guest of honour was none other than Gerry Dommett.

    The two men walked up to each other, shook hands and then spent the rest of the evening talking Stock Cars.

     

    Well if you stayed the course and read all of that, well done but believe me thats only a brief outline of the book which is cram packed with far too many stories and incidents that happened back then to include here.

    I`d certainly recommend it and someone should read it then write a screen play, after all if they can make a film hit from just 4 weddings and a funeral, this would be so easy.

     

    I did some checking and it seems Pete Tucker is still around `cos recently ( 2010 ) Radio 4 interviewed him on the early years of Stock Car racing in the UK .

    He says that you`ve still got Oval racing today in various forms but that those days were the best and after reading his book I cant disagree.

     

     

     

     

     

     

  6. ........... That makes me feel warm and cuddly inside now knowing there are more old farts out there

    myself, jb, lakey, fred, biffo.......before long ukdirt will have its own oap discount section!

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    :rolleyes: Maybe we can get sponsorship from Saga....lol

     

    :sign72: Congratulations Lakey , have a good one m8 :thumbup:

     

    That was 37 you say.......wow

  7. A Letter from America - Biffo checks out some U.S.Dirt

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    Well as I wrote most of the notes for this in Florida I guess the title still stands, besides I never sent postcards to anyone ....lol.

     

    On vacation, as they call it out here, near Fort Lauderdale, I take wife and her mate Shopping but do a deal, we must fit in time for some small oval Stock Car racing.

    Already found out on the Internet that the nearest 1/4 mile track from where are is called Hendry County Motorsports Park.

    Took a look on their web site and Google Earth to find a 1/4 mile oval smack bang in the middle of nowhere, and a meeting due for Sat.13th Nov. - 7pm start.

    " Its only about half an hour up highway 27 from where we`re staying", I`d said, running my finger up the map.

    Printed out the map from the net, which had no scale, so that was just my guess.

     

    The day arrived so the three of us set out in our Chrysler Town & Country rental motor with plenty of time to spare and soon found highway 27, then headed north.

    It was a wide dual carriageway, straight as a die through the flat landscape of Sawgrass swampland, north of the Everglands.

    It was just starting to get dark and we drove on, and on, and on.

    Then the bugs came out, hitting the windscreen like rain as they splattered, had to keep using the wash/wipe to see where we were going.

    If you camp out here and the Alligators dont get you , the bugs will.

    Eventually after seeing nothing but bugs, grass and swampland for 45 miles we arrived at South Bay, a small town with a Gas Station.

    Time to fill up with fuel , 2.97 dollars (£2) a gallon wasn`t so bad .

    Ventured further up highway 27 until we reached the town of Clewiston, then a couple of miles out the other side we could see the track lights in the distance.

    Stopped in the car park dead on 7pm and realised my little 30 minute jaunt had been nearer 65 miles and 90 minutes.

     

    post-997-1291405356.jpg THE CAR PARK - MAINLY VANS & PICK-UP TRUNKS

     

    Parked amongst the vans and pick up trucks of the locals, paid our 15 Dollars each to get in ( £10 ) and climbed onto one of the wooden stands.

    Hendry County Motorsports Park is a dirt oval on a clay base surrounded with a concrete safety wall and high catch fence.

    All the racing is anti-clockwise and there is an open pit entry / exit on one corner.

    Like most of the U.S. small ovals the spectators sit along the start / finish straight and the opposite straight is just a row of advertising boards.

    The nearest track we have on ukdirt is Birmingham dirt, if you had more banking on the bends.

    Fastest route round was to brake at the end of the straight then get the back end to slide and then power out, going wide, up the next straight so you just miss the wall.

    Sounds a bit like Brum to me....

    Not many spectators , about 100 - 150 in total.

     

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    From 7 to 7.30 they were running lap times for the Main event, the A Final, with each of the 19 finalists doing 3 laps, lap 2 being the timed one.

    At 7.30, in the usual U.S. traddition , we were invited to take off our hats and stand for the anthem ( played over the PA ).

    Eventually they were ready to run the heats for, Pure Stocks, Street Stocks and Pro Stocks, which to be honest all loooked pretty much the same.

    All beefy V8 powered saloons, just technical differences somewhere on board.

    The only class that looked any different were the Mini Stocks , these were smaller, basic 4 cyl.saloons and hatchbacks of mainly Japanese origin, refered to as Compacts.

    Unfortunately most of the heats were 10 lap affairs with only 6 or 7 cars, so it wasn`t long before my female companions were moaning , is this it, no Bangers ?

     

    post-997-1291405388.jpg HEAT WINNERS WITH PIT EXIT ON FAR SIDE

     

    Dispite my explanations of the skills invoved in racing on dirt they still weren`t too impressed and went off in search of eats and drinks.

    They came back with coffee and Funnel cake, a Florida favourite at race tracks and open air events.

    Funnel cake is like a doughnut mixture which is poured into hot fat to form a kind of round brittle pancake then covered in icing sugar.

    In this case it was lovingly prepared by a local woman pouring the mixture into the hot fat with one hand whilst holding a cigarette in the other.

    Interesting bit of multi tasking except when she`d finished we weren`t sure if it was covered in icing sugar or just fag ash ! :o

     

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    Eventually it was time to run the finals for each class.

    This time there were around a dozen cars involved and raced 15-20 laps , which was a bit more interesting with some close finishes.

    Of course as soon as anyone spun out etc. up came the Yellow flag to stop racing and slow down.

    Once the offending car or cars got going, off we went again on Green, for the rolling re-start.

    So came the last race of the night, the A Final and the 19 qualifiers took to the track, lined up and switched their engines off.

    This was to enable the kids to get down on the track and get autographs of their favourite drivers.

    I didn`t rush out there but took some more photos while hanging around.

     

    post-997-1291405332.jpg AUTOGRAPH HUNTERS

     

    After 15 minutes or so the tracks cleared of fans, so we can start.

    The commentator says in his Southern dawl, "OK folks all together now", and everyone shouts out, "Gentleman start your engines", and they did.

    Time for some real action, dust and noise, I thought. - Well yes and no.

    As soon as anything happens out comes that damn Yellow flag.

    Two more things of some interest happen when the Yellow flag is shown.

    Firstly a car will dissappear off to the pits, for whatever reason and reappear later.

    Coupled with the fact that there are no fin numbers, just those on the doors, it must be a lap scorers nightmare to keep track of 19 cars.

    Secondly there is a guy wearing headphones who opens a gate in the safety fence and jumps down onto the track.

    Bearing in mind even under Yellows the cars are doing 35 plus mph , this seems not to be a good idea.

    So then he jumps forward into the middle of the track with cars passing him on both sides and starts pointing at certain drivers to tell them that they are out of position and to get forward or back.

    When he`s got them sorted he jumps back through the gate and out of harms way so they can re-start on Green.

     

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    This goes on for some time , a couple of laps done then out come the Yellows, man prances around in the traffic pointing and jumps back again, spun car re-joins the pack or just bogs off to the pits and may come back out later or may not.

    As they didn`t count the laps on Yellow the 30 lap race must have gone to 50 at least.

    My lady companions were now standing near the exit for a swift getaway so I joined them and stood next to the official with the headphones who`s job it was to do the Dance of Death during the Yellows.

    He was telling me that this was the last race of their season and the winner would get 2000 Dollars.

    He`d just had to tell his best friend to get the the back of the field and was none too pleased with the idea.

    Just then a large angry woman came up to him and says," Thats bull* man, 90 was overtaken on the Yellows, thats bull* man and you know it ! ".

    He made a good impression of being both deaf and blind and ignored her `til she went away.

    He explained that she was the wife of the driver in car 90 .

     

    post-997-1291405288.jpg THIS IS THEIR SEASONS TOP POINTS SCORER FINISHING A BIT HOT AND BOTHERED

     

    Having got rid of one angry wife he was presented with another one, mine.

    "The racings far better back in England", she told him, "Much more exciting than this".

    Now he looked a bit dejected and tried to explain the skill of driving on dirt , of course he was just wasting this breath.

    I asked him how many more laps, and he replied three.

    Lucky, they were without a Yellow flag and we had a winner, dont ask me who though.

    Time now to exit and enjoy the long drive back.

     

    Well I enjoyed the racing overall, but we wont be going back there, at least thats what I`ve been told..........;)

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  8. You are right though, I should stop posting half arsed nonsense on our forum, afterall we must leave space for our intelligentsia to share the fruits of their intellect.

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    Hey dont be too hard on yourself xTx , :rolleyes: ..........I enjoyed you`re half arsed nonsense .. lol

     

    One things for sure who ever you vote for they`re gonna be taxing our arses off to try to get out of this huge hole we`re at the bottom of.

     

    Think they`ll be going down the Climate change track very soon after spending 5 Million Pounds on that Little girls Bed time Horror story Ad regarding towns dissappearing under water and is there a happy ending..? ..........No we`re all going to be brain washed into more taxes to save the Planet, or save the Treasury as it should be known !

     

    What about the floods in Cumbria recently I hear a few of you cry... yes you , over there, dont hid behind that monitor.

    Well it just happens that one of the most unpredictable things on the Planet is the weather, even with all the technology available the Meteological people still cant promise what the the weather will be from one week to the next with too much accuracy, let alone the next 50 - 100 years.

    You`re still going to get weather horror stories, but dont panic `cos just think of a scene where the North Sea floods over the land in East Anglia for hundreds of square miles causing death and destruction and a great down pour of rain as never before seen dumps down on Exmoor. The streams and rivers rise up and a wall of water carrying rocks and boulders crashes down to the small village of Lynmouth in Devon taking with it cars, people, bridges and buildings , which are washed out to sea......

    ....and when did this all happen August 1952 and January 1953 , just 6 months apart.

     

    :shrug: Of course I could be wrong and we`re all gonna die as the planet blows up.....oops!

     

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