MiNi_TeTz Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Comments please? table Driver number 175 name Keith Murdock chassis ogden rank 45 race_image 100 body_style ccar end car175.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haadee#525 Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 looks good but the left rear wheel is not right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H33Racing Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 looks good but the left rear wheel is not right You cant even see the left rear wheel lol But your right on the right side wheel Skin looks nice only got a little doubts about the chassis Cheers Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haadee#525 Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 looks good but the left rear wheel is not right You cant even see the left rear wheel lol But your right on the right side wheel Skin looks nice only got a little doubts about the chassis Cheers Mark lol a big mistake i meant the right rear wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon 428 Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 Lost for words......(fill in yourself if its good or bad) but it seems a lot of people are happy with the current quality of skin painting. Please stop with those complete wrong renders as my monitor is about to explode. The wheels are just a joke and for the record, its Keith Murdoch (with an added H to his last name). Comments: Font for numbers need to be changed. I think that the brand name Porsche is wrongly spelled it says Porche. I am missing a lot of signs (top of wing, bonnet) plus a couple of signs are just plain wrong. Like the chevrolet logo. The real car has a solid filled chevy logo with 383 in it whereas you have an outlined logo. You might have caught me on a bad moment but I just don't understand why some people don't have a closer look at the real life car and copy the things the right way. It's great that you try to create your own decals and signs but I think you would be better of by cut and paste from a real picture, at least then the signs and font are right. A quick rush job to paint a real life skin, put the car on the forum and get comments like "very good" from people who don't know how the actual car looks like seems to be the general idea here nowadays. Problem is that the skinpainter in question will never learn from his mistakes that way when those people keep on commentating that way. I am not planning to comment on every car posted here as I do have seen some good copies of real life skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiNi_TeTz Posted September 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 Lost for words......(fill in yourself if its good or bad) but it seems a lot of people are happy with the current quality of skin painting. Please stop with those complete wrong renders as my monitor is about to explode. The wheels are just a joke and for the record, its Keith Murdoch (with an added H to his last name). Comments: Font for numbers need to be changed. I think that the brand name Porsche is wrongly spelled it says Porche. I am missing a lot of signs (top of wing, bonnet) plus a couple of signs are just plain wrong. Like the chevrolet logo. The real car has a solid filled chevy logo with 383 in it whereas you have an outlined logo. You might have caught me on a bad moment but I just don't understand why some people don't have a closer look at the real life car and copy the things the right way. It's great that you try to create your own decals and signs but I think you would be better of by cut and paste from a real picture, at least then the signs and font are right. A quick rush job to paint a real life skin, put the car on the forum and get comments like "very good" from people who don't know how the actual car looks like seems to be the general idea here nowadays. Problem is that the skinpainter in question will never learn from his mistakes that way when those people keep on commentating that way. I am not planning to comment on every car posted here as I do have seen some good copies of real life skins. Wowww!! Horsey lol!! 1st, For the record it's KEITH MURDOCK but i couldn't EDIT my post. 2nd, the lots of missing signs you miss?? It's because the lad that gave me the request didn't have enough pictures. 3rd, Because i didn't have ENOUGH pic's I just added a chevy logo t fill up some space and the lad liked it. 4th, This was my 1st attempt at a RENDER and a real-life skin so theres much left to learn. 5th, Everyone does a typo. 6th, THE LAD LIKED THE CAR. and LAST, Who gives you the right to flame me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon 428 Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 (edited) Wowww!! Horsey lol!! 1st, For the record it's KEITH MURDOCK but i couldn't EDIT my post. 2nd, the lots of missing signs you miss?? It's because the lad that gave me the request didn't have enough pictures. 3rd, Because i didn't have ENOUGH pic's I just added a chevy logo t fill up some space and the lad liked it. 4th, This was my 1st attempt at a RENDER and a real-life skin so theres much left to learn. 5th, Everyone does a typo. 6th, THE LAD LIKED THE CAR. and LAST, Who gives you the right to flame me? Good idea of using a list, I'll copy that: 1) Your still wrong as it is Murdoch but then again, I am just a spectator who just looks at a real life picture and reads the name thats written at his mud gard on the screen where it reads "Keith "Howling mad" Murdoch". But hey it seems you know him a bit better that you can call him Murdock 2) Why do a car when you don't have enough pictures for the signs? 3) If you painted it for a lad, than why post it here and ask for comments? 4) True 5) Yes, true again, but a typo from a picture is a bit bad innit? Last) You asked for comments and so I did, so that gives me the right. That you don't like these comments is not my problem, try to learn from them and make some better skins. I don't know how you paint them and will never turn my hands onto skin painting but I do know the difference between a good or a bad skin edit: no need to use a bold font, I am not blind. Though I get the idea that you were trying to shout? Edited September 17, 2006 by Dragon 428 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martwisely Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 No need to be that harsh on the lad Dragon. His first attempt at a real life skin!! No1 makes a perfect real life skin on there 1st attempt. Just remember when you started painting you were probably the same as him!! and you improved over the years. just like he will and many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiNi_TeTz Posted September 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 Wowww!! Horsey lol!! 1st, For the record it's KEITH MURDOCK but i couldn't EDIT my post. 2nd, the lots of missing signs you miss?? It's because the lad that gave me the request didn't have enough pictures. 3rd, Because i didn't have ENOUGH pic's I just added a chevy logo t fill up some space and the lad liked it. 4th, This was my 1st attempt at a RENDER and a real-life skin so theres much left to learn. 5th, Everyone does a typo. 6th, THE LAD LIKED THE CAR. and LAST, Who gives you the right to flame me? Good idea of using a list, I'll copy that: 1) Your still wrong as it is Murdoch but then again, I am just a spectator who just looks at a real life picture and reads the name thats written at his mud gard on the screen where it reads "Keith "Howling mad" Murdoch". But hey it seems you know him a bit better that you can call him Murdock 2) Why do a car when you don't have enough pictures for the signs? 3) If you painted it for a lad, than why post it here and ask for comments? 4) True 5) Yes, true again, but a typo from a picture is a bit bad innit? Last) You asked for comments and so I did, so that gives me the right. That you don't like these comments is not my problem, try to learn from them and make some better skins. I don't know how you paint them and will never turn my hands onto skin painting but I do know the difference between a good or a bad skin edit: no need to use a bold font, I am not blind. Though I get the idea that you were trying to shout? 1, if you say it's murdoch the ok but he sayd murdock and hes from 175 team. 2, because he didn't have any more pictures but i always could give him an update. 3, Because i wanted critism not the "OMG my monitor it's soo bad!!!" 4, am glad u say true to something 5, the pic was that bad that i asked the lad. last i asked for comments not for your crap now leave me alone and go flame someone else man.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon 428 Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 If he's from team 175 than I am curious who the little lad is........ Easy tiger, once again you asked for comments which I did. If you take it the wrong way then thats your problem. I'll repeat my coments again if you can't see the difference between a comment and flaming someone down. "Comments: Font for numbers need to be changed. I think that the brand name Porsche is wrongly spelled it says Porche. I am missing a lot of signs (top of wing, bonnet) plus a couple of signs are just plain wrong. Like the chevrolet logo. The real car has a solid filled chevy logo with 383 in it whereas you have an outlined logo" It always surprises me that when people ask for comments about their skins and once they receive comments that are not in terms of "cracking, great skins, well done etc etc." they are quick off the mark to say that someone is "flaming" them down or is "talking crap". Try to improve the painting skills with the comments made. Like you said it's your first real life skin and render an all things are hard to learn. But don't go shouting when you ask for comments when those comments are not what you had hoped for. "Now leave me alone" Oh boy, if you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiNi_TeTz Posted September 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 (edited) If he's from team 175 than I am curious who the little lad is........ Easy tiger, once again you asked for comments which I did. If you take it the wrong way then thats your problem. I'll repeat my coments again if you can't see the difference between a comment and flaming someone down. "Comments: Font for numbers need to be changed. I think that the brand name Porsche is wrongly spelled it says Porche. I am missing a lot of signs (top of wing, bonnet) plus a couple of signs are just plain wrong. Like the chevrolet logo. The real car has a solid filled chevy logo with 383 in it whereas you have an outlined logo" It always surprises me that when people ask for comments about their skins and once they receive comments that are not in terms of "cracking, great skins, well done etc etc." they are quick off the mark to say that someone is "flaming" them down or is "talking crap". Try to improve the painting skills with the comments made. Like you said it's your first real life skin and render an all things are hard to learn. But don't go shouting when you ask for comments when those comments are not what you had hoped for. "Now leave me alone" Oh boy, if you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen please ok then have it your way ..!! Do you know what the signs say on bonnet and roof ?? Can you find a good picture? I dont think my skin is the best of the world because it's my first lol and ive already changed the things on it that you commented !!Nut the way you say it is what i dont like "Please stop with those complete wrong renders as my monitor is about to explode" that pissed e off because mot of the ppl on messenger sayd it was ok for my first and then commented thing i could change.. But you ?? if you made something and i would say Oh dear my monitor the render omg it's the worst ever your numbers dont look right everything is missing you have typo's etc. what woul'd have been your reaction? Edited September 17, 2006 by MiNi_TeTz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon 428 Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 I would have taken it the right way and would try to improve my skinpainting from the comments made. First see if they are true and than ask what more I could change to get a better skin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiNi_TeTz Posted September 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 I would have taken it the right way and would try to improve my skinpainting from the comments made. First see if they are true and than ask what more I could change to get a better skin SURE,,, were re the pics? i thought u know what was missing on the Roof and bonnet??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H33Racing Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 Dragon is right mini tetz .. indeed the skin is good for a first attempt but .. 1. Why not wait till the car is racing again somewhere and take your camera and make pictures of them signs .. 2. Why not asking the lad who requested the skin for some clearer pictures, if he is a member of team 175 he should have acces to the car or having contact with people who deffo have . 3. Why not asking on forums like pewi or maybe even stoxnet if people have pictures of the car in question. These post arent meant to slag people off and i'm sure Dragons post also isnt, you just have to see it as constructive critisism. Dragon is an experienced painter and he knows what he's talking about .. saying things like "Who gives you the right to flame me?" arent the right things to say to people where you can learn from. PS .. the name is deffo Keith Murdoch Cheers Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H33Racing Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 Here's something for u .. it might help u to finish the skin .. This is what i mean with if u ask around on forums it might work to get u stuff to finish skins .. I'll send u these signs over in a layered .psd if u want Cheers Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiNi_TeTz Posted September 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 thanks i needed that cartman with 50 i had plain one but whats on the roof? i have the rest.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H33Racing Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 thanks i needed that cartman with 50 i had plain one but whats on the roof? i have the rest.. Sorry dont have any good signs from top of the aerofoil .. this is the only one .. shouldnt be to hard to make those signs tho .. Cheers Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiNi_TeTz Posted September 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 ive noticed m.vd rijt thats on the bonnet right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiNi_TeTz Posted September 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 Improved version thanks to h33racing for giving me the pics car175.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiNi_TeTz Posted September 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 (edited) Link Removed is the .car for ppl who wanna DL Edited September 17, 2006 by LeeK39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoR137 Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 Excuse me, but you have no right to go around distributing the ogden.car file to anyone, it is only available from UKDirtF1 and should not be redistributed to anybody, at least not without my permission, which you have not even had the decency to ask for to just render the car. Despite what people seem to think, not everything on the internet is free for thier taking, yes i've released the Ogden in a 'free' download, but the fact you've not even had the decency to ask about permission before redistributing is just plain bad manners. This thread also made me laugh, you asked for comments and took complete offence to the first bad one. Cheers MoR PS - the answer is no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasser233 Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 (edited) Amazing ....not had a thread like this for ages and I needed cheering up. You couldn't script some of this I'm sure....getting the bloke's name wrong then swearing blind it's right for eg. Cheers for the laughs anyway...keep up the comedy material, I expect to see the ukdirt sitcom out shortly. Edited September 17, 2006 by Grasser233 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The London Allstar Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 Agree with grasser.... reading that has actually perked me up, amazing how you can make an argument out of nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munster Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 Comments please? You asked Don't let it get to you m8, just take the advice and forget about the way it's come acrossed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruiz 136 Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 I am pretty sure it is Keith Murdoch, The skin is now looking much better, although the chassis choice is questionable, despite MoR's excellent job creating it. Maybe the speak chassis would look better i don't know. I agree with Dragon some efforts do look poor and Dragon probably didn't know it was your first attempt. When i ask for comments on mine, sometimes i do get bad ones but i don't erupt, i just make changes. Nice first time effort though, (try and keep a cool head), Kruiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munster Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 After thinking about this and reading again and again, I can't see the point ? What aload of FILTERED, Dragon has a bad attitude problem, with MoR stuck right up his arse, who gave you the right kinda convo..... MoR you said in your sig your happy to allow people to render your chassis you created, now come on get out your arse and just let people get on with it, if you didn't want people to render your skins why say so ? and don't say well, I asked them to ask me before they rendered....what a waste of time, the model has no money attached so why be so childish ? Seems to me this kind of attitude is all about being a bitch ? Millking the fact you created the chassis ? Whats the point ? FatBoyFin has created many banger chassis and is more than happy to allow people to render them, im sure he feels proud of the fact people render them, why don't you feel the same ? like to milk it a little ? I think so.... Getting back to the thread.... So what, the young lad has missed a few details on the ''real life'' skin, he's 15 ffs.....he's not painted many skins... So, Dragon has a bad day and thinks it'll be Ok to have a blast at him (now I know the answer from Dragon...I didn't blast at him I just gave him some good advice) what crap, you hit him hard saying it was a crap skin, was wrong and what a waste of time doing! Now why put it this way ? Come on he's 15 you really think comments like that will help ? ffs I respect the lad more for not replying and telling you to bugger off....... Come on Dragon, think about what you say first And MoR chill out......it's a game, game files, you spent time doing what you did, fine, relax let people use them for what they are, .car files. and 3ds files.....make the most of it! Blaaaa, dunno why I waste my time reading this crap, sticking up for others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martwisely Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 After thinking about this and reading again and again, I can't see the point ? What aload of FILTERED, Dragon has a bad attitude problem, with MoR stuck right up his arse, who gave you the right kinda convo..... MoR you said in your sig your happy to allow people to render your chassis you created, now come on get out your arse and just let people get on with it, if you didn't want people to render your skins why say so ? and don't say well, I asked them to ask me before they rendered....what a waste of time, the model has no money attached so why be so childish ? Seems to me this kind of attitude is all about being a bitch ? Millking the fact you created the chassis ? Whats the point ? FatBoyFin has created many banger chassis and is more than happy to allow people to render them, im sure he feels proud of the fact people render them, why don't you feel the same ? like to milk it a little ? I think so.... Getting back to the thread.... So what, the young lad has missed a few details on the ''real life'' skin, he's 15 ffs.....he's not painted many skins... So, Dragon has a bad day and thinks it'll be Ok to have a blast at him (now I know the answer from Dragon...I didn't blast at him I just gave him some good advice) what crap, you hit him hard saying it was a crap skin, was wrong and what a waste of time doing! Now why put it this way ? Come on he's 15 you really think comments like that will help ? ffs I respect the lad more for not replying and telling you to bugger off....... Come on Dragon, think about what you say first And MoR chill out......it's a game, game files, you spent time doing what you did, fine, relax let people use them for what they are, .car files. and 3ds files.....make the most of it! Blaaaa, dunno why I waste my time reading this crap, sticking up for others... Well said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky961 Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 Well said Munster. He had a bash at the skin, it aint far off the real thing so let him get off it and give him constructive advice. cheers sparky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon 428 Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 So, Dragon has a bad day and thinks it'll be Ok to have a blast at him (now I know the answer from Dragon...I didn't blast at him I just gave him some good advice) what crap, you hit him hard saying it was a crap skin, was wrong and what a waste of time doing! Now why put it this way ? Come on he's 15 you really think comments like that will help ? ffs I respect the lad more for not replying and telling you to bugger off....... Come on Dragon, think about what you say first I can see where you are coming from Munster and maybe you are right but from the above quote I can't see any of those comments been made by me in my original first post nor where I "blasted" him?. I did not say that his skin was crap and a waste of doing. I did say that things were wrong yes. I pointed out where I think things are wrong, plus I am giving him some advice on the skinpaiting stuff by saying that he needs to have a closer look on the real life car and maybe opt for the cut and past options from real life skins. My last phrase is a comment in general and not directly pointed at MiNi Tetz. But you are right, he is 15 so I'll have to post positive stuff. Could you please tell me what the age is where I am allowed to post a reply as in my original post (as looking from the reply's that must be some mean, nasty and rude post)? I did think before I wrote it down, just like I do now. When someone (like me) writes something that doesn't fit into the "be positive" street you get the stamp of "he's having a bad attitude". It looks like you are only allowed to post all bright and sunshine on this forum otherwise you "have an attitude". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikard Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 (edited) Well if we can all agree on one thing it has to be reading this thread is great entertainment If you feel its all getting a bit too serious i challenge you to watch >this< and try and keep a straight face That fat blokes dancing puts us all to shame Edited September 19, 2006 by Rikard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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