psyko75

Here is the F2 drivers text i did just some days ago.. took me some hours but hope i got all drivers right. Bad that only the first 100 are listed in Heat drivers.txt

laptop AMD Turion 2.0 Nvidea Go 6150 1024 Ram

I ask him about his running system and will give info to you. many thanks for the three answers and suggestions

Another german guy got problems when trying to crate a multiplayer game or joining into one. Heat stops and he got the following log file 24.17.265: ====================================================================== 24.17.265: Sep 6 2002 12:09:31 N W32 M6 R senor_b 24.17.265: ====================================================================== 24.17.265: mem: p/s/t t/a 1023M/632M 2461M/2134M 2047M/1996M 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: IEEE 802.11g Wireless Cardbus/PCI Adapter 24.17.265: Mfg: Marvell 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: NVIDIA® nForce Audio Codec Interface 24.17.265: Mfg: NVIDIA Corporation 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Standard erweiterter PCI-zu-USB universeller Hostcontroller 24.17.265: Mfg: (Standard-USB-Hostcontroller) 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Standard OpenHCD USB-Hostcontroller 24.17.265: Mfg: (Standard-USB-Hostcontroller) 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Standard OpenHCD USB-Hostcontroller 24.17.265: Mfg: (Standard-USB-Hostcontroller) 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: NVIDIA nForce2 ATA Controller (v2.6) 24.17.265: Mfg: NVIDIA Corporation 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: RADEON 9800 PRO - Secondary 24.17.265: Mfg: ATI Technologies Inc. 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: RADEON 9800 PRO 24.17.265: Mfg: ATI Technologies Inc. 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Hamachi Network Interface 24.17.265: Mfg: Applied Networking Inc. 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Parallelanschluss (direkt) 24.17.265: Mfg: Microsoft 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Paketplaner-Miniport 24.17.265: Mfg: Microsoft 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Paketplaner-Miniport 24.17.265: Mfg: Microsoft 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: WAN-Miniport (PPTP) 24.17.265: Mfg: Microsoft 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: WAN-Miniport (PPPOE) 24.17.265: Mfg: Microsoft 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: WAN-Miniport (IP) 24.17.265: Mfg: Microsoft 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: WAN-Miniport (L2TP) 24.17.265: Mfg: Microsoft 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Videocodecs 24.17.265: Mfg: (Standardsystemgeräte) 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Legacy-Videoaufnahmegerät 24.17.265: Mfg: (Standardsystemgeräte) 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Mediensteuerungsgerät 24.17.265: Mfg: (Standardsystemgeräte) 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Legacy-Audiotreiber 24.17.265: Mfg: (Standardsystemgeräte) 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Audiocodecs 24.17.265: Mfg: (Standardsystemgeräte) 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: zlportio 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Konfigurationsfreie drahtlose Verbindung 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Automatische Updates 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Sicherheitscenter 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Windows-Verwaltungsinstrumentation 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Webclient 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: RAS-IP-ARP-Treiber 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Windows-Zeitgeber 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: VolSnap 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: VgaSave 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: vga 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Vax347s 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Messenger Sharing USN Journal Reader-Service 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Windows User Mode Driver Framework 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Udfs 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Überwachung verteilter Verknüpfungen (Client) 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Designs 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Terminaldienste 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: TCP/IP-Protokolltreiber 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Telefonie 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: SVKP 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: StyleXPService 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: StyleXPHelper 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Windows-Bilderfassung (WIA) 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: StarWind iSCSI Service 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: SSDP-Suchdienst 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Srv 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Systemwiederherstellungsdienst 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Filtertreiber für Systemwiederherstellung 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: sptd 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Druckwarteschlange 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Shellhardwareerkennung 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Windows-Firewall/Gemeinsame Nutzung der Internetverbindung 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: StarForce Protection VFS Driver (version 2.x) 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: StarForce Protection Synchronization Driver (version 4.x) 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: StarForce Protection Synchronization Driver (version 3.x) 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: SF FrontLine Drivers Auto Removal (v1) 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: StarForce Protection Helper Driver (version 2.x) 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: StarForce Protection Environment Driver (version 1.x) 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Systemereignisbenachrichtigung 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Sekundäre Anmeldung 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Secdrv 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Taskplaner 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Sicherheitskontenverwaltung 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: QoS-RSVP 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Remoteprozeduraufruf (RPC) 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Remote-Registrierung 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: RDPNP 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: RDPCDD 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Rdbss 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: RAS-Verbindungsverwaltung 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Treiber für automatische RAS-Verbindung 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Geschützter Speicher 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: IPSEC-Dienste 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: PCIIde 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: ParVdm 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: PartMgr 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Null 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: ntfs 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Npfs 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: NLA (Network Location Awareness) 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Netzwerkverbindungen 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: NetBios über TCP/IP 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: NetBIOS-Schnittstelle 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: NDProxy 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: NDIS-Benutzermodus-E/A-Protokoll 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: RAS-NDIS-TAPI-Treiber 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: NDIS-Systemtreiber 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Mup 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Windows Installer 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Msfs 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: Distributed Transaction Coordinator 24.17.265: ----------------------- 24.17.265: DeviceDesc: MRXSMB 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: Redirector für WebDav-Client 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: mountmgr 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: mnmdd 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: TCP/IP-NetBIOS-Hilfsprogramm 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: Arbeitsstationsdienst 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: Server 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: ksecdd 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: IPSEC-Treiber 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: IP-Netzwerkadressübersetzung 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: IMAPI-CD-Brenn-COM-Dienste 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: HTTP-SSL 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: HTTP 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: HID Input Service 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: Hilfe und Support 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: Standardpaketklassifizierung 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: Fs_Rec 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: FltMgr 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: Fips 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: Kompatibilität für schnelle Benutzerumschaltung 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: fastfat 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: COM+-Ereignissystem 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: Fehlerberichterstattungsdienst 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: EPAXIEVK 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: DNS-Client 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: Verwaltung logischer Datenträger 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: dmload 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: dmboot 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: DHCP-Client 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: DCOM-Server-Prozessstart 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: Dcfssvc 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: Kryptografiedienste 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: COM+-Systemanwendung 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: cdfs 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: Computerbrowser 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: Intelligenter Hintergrundübertragungsdienst 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: Beep 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: avgntmgr 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: avgntdd 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: Windows Audio 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: ATI Smart 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: Ati HotKey Poller 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: Standard-IDE/ESDI-Festplattencontroller 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: Anwendungsverwaltung 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic Service 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: AntiVir Scheduler 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: Gatewaydienst auf Anwendungsebene 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: AFD 24.17.281: ----------------------- 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: ACPI-Uniprozessor-PC 24.17.281: Mfg: (Standardcomputer) 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: COM2 24.17.281: DeviceDesc: COM1 24.17.390: JoyBegin 24.17.390: Joystick 0: "WingMan Precision USB" 24.17.390: joy 0: create_joystick 24.17.390: joy: created 0 as "WingMan Precision USB" 24.17.390: joy 0: turned off deadzone 24.17.390: joy 0: x-effect unsupported 24.17.390: data directory: C:\Program Files\Hasbro Interactive\NASCAR Heat\Data\ 24.17.406: Config Dir: C:\Program Files\Hasbro Interactive\NASCAR Heat\ 24.17.406: Add-on tracks dir: "C:\Program Files\Hasbro Interactive\NASCAR Heat\tracks\" 24.17.406: mod: trying mod "national"...24.17.406: mod.cfg found ok. 24.17.421: mod: Config Dir override: C:\Program Files\Hasbro Interactive\NASCAR Heat\national\ 24.17.421: Running on Windows 9x version 4.0:950 24.18.390: ddraw: created directdraw with ati2dvag.dll (RADEON 9800 PRO) 24.18.390: ddraw: version 0.0.0.0 24.18.968: vid: 64 meg card (reported:246.554626) 24.18.968: vid: using AGP textures (123), total: 64 24.19.000: vid: triple buffer on 24.19.046: texture: supports compressed solid texture 24.19.171: mr: 3D performance: 2671 MPix/sec, 17337 KTris/sec 24.19.171: mr: fill rate is AWESOME, poly rate is AWESOME, machine speed is 2104 24.19.468: using sound mixer Sound 24.19.828: Using user driver file 24.39.234: ====================================================================== 24.39.234: () Panic: TaskResume: Task "Multiplayer" was not suspended 24.39.234: ====================================================================== 24.39.250: except: dec: exe 6b06c38 24.39.250: NON-DEBUG 24.39.250: ( 00419510 , none , my_handler ) 24.39.250: ( 004194A0 , EXCEPTION_BREAKPOINT , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 0041A7F5, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 00412A2D, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 004E99B7, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 0041C6F3, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 0041C7CE, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 00418F24, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 0041C99B, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 004E7925, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 0041295B, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 00417D73, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 004C1087, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 004B1245, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 004C4ED3, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 00417707, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 004C0715, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 004D0153, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 004D01D6, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 004CF7C6, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 004C683B, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 004C68C1, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 004C5AC9, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 004C0715, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 004C68ED, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 004C9060, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 004C8C3A, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 004C8CBF, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 004CAF35, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 004B1129, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 004B117D, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 004AC193, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 004AC093, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.250: ( 004A954F, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 004E9FA8, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 004E99B7, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 004E99B7, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 00412102, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 004E7D0F, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 00418F24, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 0041290F, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 004EBC41, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 004EBC25, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 004EBC0F, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 004EB86E, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 004E7D62, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 0041F16D, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 0041F192, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 0041F11D, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 004E9FA8, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 004E9EC9, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 0041C6F3, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 00418F24, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 0041C6AD, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 004E7EF9, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 004E7DC2, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 00418F24, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 00418F24, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 00499035, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 00418F24, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 00498830, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 00496CB8, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 0049672E, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 004012BE, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 004A942A, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 004011E5, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 00413F27, call-stack , ? ) 24.39.265: ( 004E81E0, call-stack , ? ) Can anybody help with this? Many thanks again

Thanks mate for clearing up

pics are made by me and the crash was a really hard one. Good he is ok again

ok i think i did the search like this but maybe a was blind.. will try again. So this means there MUST be a common.res in the Hot Rod Folder? Whats in that file? I´m asking this as if it is possible to maybe take the file from the NationalHeat folder also?

Hi everybody A buddy of my that live to far away from me to simply visit got the following log file after installing Nascar Heat and ukdirtrods 58.00.256: ====================================================================== 58.00.256: Sep 6 2002 12:09:31 N W32 M6 R senor_b 58.00.256: ====================================================================== 58.00.256: mem: p/s/t t/a 511M/196M 1250M/848M 2047M/2023M 58.00.287: JoyBegin 58.00.287: data directory: C:\Program Files\Hasbro Interactive\NASCAR Heat\National\Data\ 58.00.287: Config Dir: C:\Program Files\Hasbro Interactive\NASCAR Heat\National\ 58.00.287: Add-on tracks dir: "C:\Program Files\Hasbro Interactive\NASCAR Heat\National\tracks\" 58.00.287: mod: trying mod "national"...58.00.287: mod.cfg not found. 58.00.287: Running on WinNT version 5.1:2600 Service Pack 2 58.00.287: ====================================================================== 58.00.287: () Panic: Can't load resource set "common.res" 58.00.287: ====================================================================== 58.00.302: except: dec: exe 6b06c38 58.00.302: NON-DEBUG 58.00.302: ( 00419510 , none , my_handler ) 58.00.302: ( 004194A0 , EXCEPTION_BREAKPOINT , ? ) 58.00.302: ( 0041A7F5, call-stack , ? ) 58.00.302: ( 00412A2D, call-stack , ? ) 58.00.302: ( 004E99B7, call-stack , ? ) 58.00.302: ( 004E7925, call-stack , ? ) 58.00.302: ( 0041295B, call-stack , ? ) 58.00.302: ( 0041BF61, call-stack , ? ) 58.00.302: ( 0041C2EA, call-stack , ? ) 58.00.302: ( 0041C2FC, call-stack , ? ) 58.00.302: ( 004011FC, call-stack , ? ) 58.00.302: ( 004011BA, call-stack , ? ) 58.00.302: ( 00413F27, call-stack , ? ) 58.00.302: ( 004E81E0, call-stack , ? ) For me it looks like common.res missing but after looking in my ukdirtrod folder i also got none there and it is working there. Anybody can help???

May be wrong topic but i installed rfactor and copyed all the etcc stuff in the folders but got only the Alfa to chosse from and if i delete the Alfa folder i got only BMW. Anybody can help?

wow that really looks cool.. keep up your work

another one hwsascha171

Many thanks mate Yes i like it... hope i will be able to get it as fast as it looks like

Hi Could anybody do me a simple Stock Rod Skin for the first skinpack on saturday as i hope with my new bought laptop a can do some online races again. Just colors white front to blue back (with some silver glitter if possible) Number 171 and some Sponsors and this logo on the hood http://www.mcas.k12.in.us/mchs/HS%20EC%20Sports/new_wolf.gif or something simular (wolf or german shepherd head) Sascha Paar on sunvisor (two s in Sascha as most write it wrong) and if there are now different Novas available i would prefer the non wing one with the fin So hope somebody will do it and i will get a nightshift this night installing Nascar Heat with all Mods again.

so looks like i´m the only one who don´t got a drivers number hes a fan from or even a own number he has raced with. I wanted the 777 as it is from a old german hot rod driver i liked. But number was used. So i wanted a number simular that was free in all leagues i would race as i had not decided what to race. 477 was possible but i have not seen that this was in use in F2.. so i searched for another 3 digit number with 2 numbers the same in there and ended up with 171. so 477 in all other leagues (SSC, bangers etc) and in F2 the 171

Spot on comment Knobby. Setups are simply not a 1 minute thing ''Oh I will change that and I'll be on the pace''. It simply doesnt happen. You really need to think of the car as in real life e.g Is it going around the bend as I would like?? Can I control it ok coming out of the bend, is it oversteering/understeering?? Is it revving to much/not enough at the end of the straight?? I have been racing Uk Dirt Bangers pretty much since it started (3+ years) and I am by no means quick, so how would someone who has been racing 3 months expect to be a championship contender?? I used to race F2's quite regular, but being a banger person I left it for a while and when I came back the bar for setting quick laps had risen to a height in which I dont think I can compete in them anymore. It's not just about fast laps either. Yes it helps but its not the be-all and end-all of racing. Consistency is the key to any racing, no matter what formula you are in. I dont beleive racing the AI will improve your driving at all. Driving online is totally different as you have to expect the un-expected, the AI take the same line into the bend and up the straight nearly every lap. The only way you will improve is online in a server. If your time is limited to how much you can practise online, then im afraid thats life! Dazza ^ So if i´m a hard worker or maybe a father that just want to get some fun from time to time.. and i don´t got the time to spent hours, days and months for getting a setup done that allows me to drive like the best ....i´m should not be allowed to race anymore? So we don´t have to talk about unfair attacs some may do but why is their a grading system even in real live.... just to give the not so good drivers a possiblility to do a race and get experience in the league and even in real live there are some that make mistakes that cause higher grades a win maybe.

I thing the F2 keyboard setups are a very good start (and i´m a white top). I´just changed some little things and can go around the tracks... not that fast but it most times its ok for a battle with white and yellow grades. main part to get a better pace is practice for sure. But not everybody got the time to get to the computer every evening to race against other players..so.... I think what need to be done is some better ai so you can also battle with them everytime YOU got time to race and not the time when you are allowed to use the servers. For example in F1 in Buxton or Newtongrange the ai is full crap but i got really big problems to battle the ai F1s in Northhampton. If there ia a ai like there for every track i can more othen try to improve my setups. Also some ok setups have to be included in every league to give newbies that are not so improved in car physics a good start. For me it´s impossible to start a setup from scrap and as i´m from germany i even don´t know what tracks may be a bit simular to another.

Fasternie in Bocholt at Bangers German Open (20 years after last official Bangers Race in Germany) and AkkaRaze So nice modell of your car available here i saw Many thanks for the smalltalk

and still only 2 races per year.. what a pitty

it is only 5/10 years brisca Before Spedeworth .. and still there are hanging flags from spedeworth on the race circuit And its better to do Venray / warneton because they got more visitors then posterholt in history has .... and they are better tracks ... Always ppl think they know better, Venray is racing in stockcars not Stockcar Racing no Action at all!!! And if something happens , its always with casualties.The public appearance is bigger but the public amusement is Smaller.. Have to agree.. I liked Venray last season but new layout looks crap. Both tracks are great in there way but for the league Posterholt would be better.

great render on the way to wreck

great renders. But car on trailor looks a bit to small isnt it?

I think placing a thread like this is not the way to go. As mentioned in a older thread sparky is just young and maybe (sorry if i don´t find the right words) sometimes a bit out of way how he writes.. but in most parts he (and thats my point of view) wants to push the whole league as he can´t wait for someting new. I´m or have been a bit same way some time ago and now i´m admin in my hobby. I think sparky should get a last chance to get his fingers writing things in another way without getting worse to people. But i although think there should be some modellers anounced like for example H33 who (in my opinion is doing really nice renders) from dragon that are into rendering and are allowed to use his files. Everybody who wants to should be able to get such a nice render of his car from somebody who makes render in a way dragon think it´s ok (so without loosing all details of his nice chassis) So i hope everybody understand what i mean as it is really hard for me german kraut to find the fitting words.

brilliant

is 1.72 needed for ukdirt or can 1.80 be used too??? and if not why? just for interests